The mg34s production cost in time and resources was greater and was sensitive. Mg34 has a longer range and has a higher accuracy but its aslo more expensive. A german mountain troops mg42 gunner is engaging a far distance target in the caucasus. As for suppression they are roughly the same, maybe be 0. The mg34 was the first modern, general purpose machine gun to be produced in large quantities. I havent seen the mg42 almost at all lately, and after playing the wehrmacht a bit. Like the ppsh, it doesnt lose any ability from being added to a squad except panzergrenadiers, who become more midrange based. I think the kubel suppresses better than the mg 34 actually. Its the mg42, not the mg34, that had the very real risk of firing out of battery, especially later production models. Set of 2 mg34mg42mg3 starting tab starting tab for the mg34 mg42mg3.
Of what i have found, the mg34 has a slightly narrower cone of fire compared to the mg42 by maybe a degree and a half. The 42 is more relible than the 34 but lacks the selictivefire. Fixed an issue where the mg34 did not use the correct lines for the. Shooting the mg34 and mg42 may 12, 2014 ian mccollum beltfed, general purpose mgs 62 the mg34 and mg42 machine guns were the mainstay of german infantry and vehicle firepower during world war ii, and it will take several videos to properly cover them. If you liked the content then like subscribe and favourite. However, the mg 34 did have its drawbacks, such as sensitivity to dirt and mud, and. After 18 months of waiting i finally received my semi auto mg42 7. The design came about primarily as a resource and costreducing measures against the resourceintense, intricate and more expensive mg34.
Panzer iv medium tank company of heroes wiki fandom. However, comparing the wermact to the oberkommando, the mg34 is the victor, primarily to its increased veterancy levels. According to uniforms and traditions of the german army, vol. M2 50 cal vs mg 42 historical discussion war thunder. Entering production in 1942, it was intended to supplement and replace the earlier mg 34, which was more expensive and took much longer to. Mg42 vs mg34 company of heroes 2 general discussions. Hey, in this video i decided to test out the mg34 and the mg42 and compare how good they are, with this i did. The mg34 is fine, at least imo, because the okw can get along without it and.
I run mg34 at max rpm and the mg42 at stock with tight grip gold. From what i know playing coh1 in the past and now coh2 is that every faction is verry different from the others and has. In comparison the mg42 was mainly manufactured with stamped metal parts and had higher tolerances. The mg42 has a higher rof than the 34 and is less accurate than the 34.
The mg42 can have a barrel changed after 250 rounds in about 6 seconds with an experienced gunner. While mg42 hmg is definetly better than its mg34 counterpart, i feel like mg34 lmg is superior than mg42 lmg since the cooldown is much. I reworked the texture of the mg34 model used in a lot of mods to look more similar to the relic mg42 texture and created a new normal map. Oswind flakpanzers are fast and deadly against your rifles, so make sure you cover them with ats and use the stuarts to flank and disable. Game content and materials are trademarks and s of their respective publisher and its licensors. The german maschinengewehr 42, or mg42, was one of the best machineguns of the war, both in combat and in ease of production. If hes your dedicated mg, then mg42 with tight grip. Mg42 has a incredible higher fire rate, costs less to request and quicker suppression i think. The mg34 sucks a little but why is everybody crowding tu use it. It deals the same damage as the mg42 but has a lower rate of fire and accuracy, while the lower rof means long bursts are much more steady than with the mg42. The mg42 was an improvement over the mg34 and much easier to manufacture. This new machine gun, labeled as the mg 39 was made with a stamped steel construction as requested by the commission and was much easier to build and used less resources than the earlier mg34. With the mg 34, the german wehrmacht introduced an entirely new concept in automatic firepower the generalpurpose machine gun gpmg. Assault gun crew uses the pintlemounted mg 42 for additional defenses against infantry and aircraft.
Flex seal, concrete and metal gun barrel obstructions. Mg34 vrs mg42 the firearms forum the buying, selling or. This was something that was very much liked by infantry over the mg42 which you had only the option to put it into safe or full auto. Summer patch 2018 seasonal map cup mapping discussion map sharing modding and tools. Post by shazhib i think the most difficult part is the rounds belt. The mg42, which lives on these days as the german m3 in. The mg42 is also a copy of the mg34 with an upgraded rof and a few other changes. I had a bug where my german mg 34 lost all its buttons in the bottom. Okw is supposed to have powerful infantry and weak support weps and ostheer goes the opposite way round and remember its dirt cheap too, basically does not need buffs.
I didnt test all the opening possibilities with okw but i guess a kubelmg34volks combo would be a choice. During wwii, the mg42 had the fastest rate of fire of any weapon, at 1200 rounds per minute up to 1800 in some versions. The mg34 is fine, at least imo, because the okw can get along without it and still do well, and it is soo cheap maybe too cheap. The maschinengewehr 1942, or mg42, is a german machine gun, first manufactured in 1942 as the successor to the mg34.
It is difficult to retain a certain tention of the belt but not making a significant friction with a bolt by. Coh 2 changelog page 5 company of heroes official forums. Mg42, mg3, m53 semi auto conversion parts, build parts. It set the standard for machineguns in the years that followed, and as such was the most important machinegun of the war. German universal machine guns hardcover december 1, 2002 by folke myrvang author 4. The 222 scout car has had its coaxial mg34 accuracy penalty vs snipers. Mg 34 had 800 to 1100 rounds per minute, while the mg42 had 1100 to 0 average being 1200 rounds per minute. As the most modern mg of ww2, it should be a effective weapon, and feared, but not op. The mg42 is one of the happy accidents of the later years of the ww2.
Yet simply by changing its mount and feed mechanism, the operator could radically transform its. Modding options for the mg34 are severely limited, like the m1918 bar. Other wise this unit is one of the best machine guns in coh2 especially when. The bolt of the mg34 is far more complicated, and takes at least twice as much labor with higher quality metals to produce. Aug 18, 2014 of what i have found, the mg34 has a slightly narrower cone of fire compared to the mg42 by maybe a degree and a half. Today i compare with svenskost, which machine gun is better. See all formats and editions hide other formats and editions. Mg34 is a lower dps than of mg42 which is compensate by slightly faster setup time than mg42.
Jan 20, 2005 in comparison the mg42 was mainly manufactured with stamped metal parts and had higher tolerances. The maschinengewehr 34, or mg 34, is a german recoiloperated aircooled machine gun, first tested in 1929, introduced in 1934, and issued to units in 1936. If the mg42 dont have all that pin power and dont kill fast, imagine the mg34. The manufacturing time for the mg42 was 50% faster taking only 75 man hours to complete the weapon as opposed to 150 hours for the mg34. P and she looks great with it little brother the semi auto. Sep 09, 2015 the mg42, which lives on these days as the german m3 in. But in the game, we see it in anything he does not agree. Mg42 the 34 is more accurate than the 42 and has the selictivefire option. The happy coincidence is they came about a gun that not only did that, but set the tone for beltfed weapons for decades. Mg34 mg42 gunner tool pouchmuseum grade man the line.
The mg42 and mg34 company of heroes official forums. Mg34 and panzerschreck upgrades still cancel each other out. I also heard from an mg34mg42 gunner that the barrel change on the mg42 was considerably easier than on the mg34. Whats more neither the mg34 or 42 had a wooden quickrelease handle. The maschinengewehr 34, first operational in 1934 as the name implies, was designed as a multipurpose, highly reliable machine gun with an extremely high cyclic rate of fire and it performed admirably in this role. Veterancy plays a big role in company of heroes 2 and seeing all of those stars above our unit shields.
If they push out mg42s make sure you spread out and flank. Aug 18, 2015 the other main feature the mg34 had over the 42 was the option to fire in single shot or full auto. I also heard from an mg34 mg42 gunner that the barrel change on the mg42 was considerably easier than on the mg34. Fixed heavy mg squad missing additional mg42 when upgraded with. It introduced an entirely new concept in automatic firepower the einheitsmaschinengewehr universal machine gun and is generally considered the worlds first generalpurpose machine gun gpmg. G43 is doctrinal 3 doctrines vs 5 doctrines and costs munitions to buy 60 vs 30. Various models of the mg34, with small differences, were produced for the german wehrmacht during world war ii.
You always need to weight the opportunity cost of using mg42 over mg34 vs what would the best badge you could use instead of tight grip bring to you. I heard a story that hudson once tried to make m60 minimi modelgun, however, they gave up because of the rounds belt. The mg34 is still much more controllable and better for mid to long ranges imo. I would take the 34 if i was on the western front and the 42 in the desert and the eastern front. At this rate it becomes impossible for the human ear to discern the sound of individual bullets.
The mg42s bolt was set on rollers for for faster loading. Ill agree that the mg34 looks a little more exotic in a starwars kind of way. Its time we ditched the myth of german smallarms supremacy. More than this, it is a mobile supression platform which makes it verry usefull. May 12, 2014 shooting the mg34 and mg42 may 12, 2014 ian mccollum beltfed, general purpose mgs 62 the mg34 and mg42 machine guns were the mainstay of german infantry and vehicle firepower during world war ii, and it will take several videos to properly cover them.
If we allow the mg34 the same 10 seconds for a belt and barrel change ignoring the 75rnd drums. Historically, the mg34 must give mg42 because it is an earlier gun. The mg34 is in reality the grandfather of all modern lmgs. Jul 17, 2014 mg34 is a lower dps than of mg42 which is compensate by slightly faster setup time than mg42. Jun 01, 2019 history, development, service, specifications, statistics, pictures, video and 3d model. History, development, service, specifications, statistics, pictures, video and 3d model. The early mg34 were extremly well made weapons that were very reliable for the time, but like already mentioned, extremly expensive, time and resource intensive to produce. I run it with minimal mods, but the sway makes you feel like youre drunk, even when crouching. Company of heroes 2 general discussions topic details. It was an aircooled belt feed machine gun firing 7.
Fixed a bug in which okw sws halftracks had a stealthy mg42 machine gun. My guess is that okw vet 5 mg34 will perform better than vet 3 mg42. I actually prefer this one over the mg42 because of the seemingly faster setuppack up time and the lower price. So working at full pelt with unlimited ammo and barrels to hand. Also, mg 34 was either belt fed or drum magazine fed. Both were air cooled, but the mg42 had a more advanced cooling system. Comes complete with all internal fittings to secure the spider antiaircraft sight, spare bolt, ruptured casing extractor, and wrench. Well still release patch updates every now and then, so eyes peeled, and for the meantime, have fun. Org forums parlor room coh2 central coh2 balance hmg34 hmg34. It was overall much more reliable in combat conditions and thus quite popular with gunners. The risk vs reward factor is too skewed to make more than one mg42 if any at all. The maschinengewehr 34, or mg34, was a german machine gun that was first produced and accepted for service by the wehrmacht in 1934, reaching ground units by 1935. The scope of this patch was focused around two primary pillars. Mg34 vrs mg42 the firearms forum the buying, selling.
And while i agree the rof of the mg42 was probably too high, the soldiers trained to use it were very good at changing the barrel, as someone mentioned earlier it took an average of 6 seconds. But if it sees the enemy coming then it works good. There really isnt a great deal of difference, bear. Heres the thing, ive been playing since alpha, and ive actually never had the. Scout cars can be annoying until you get your mg drop and captain, but are easy kills against stuarts. If you want a higher rpm close to mid range gun the mg42 is probably a better bet. It also has a slower rate, meaning cover is even more important. When the production of mg34 models was obviously insufficient for the german armys needs, a new design of weapon was begun, one which would be easier to massproduce. The mg42 was by all means an evolutionary step of the universal machinegun concept, it was designed from the start to be better than the mg34. It reminded me of when coh2 was new and everyone was kind of stumbling.
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